John Meyers, 515 Housing Consultant


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Obediah Baker, Sr.
Deputy Administrator,
Multi-Family Housing
Rural Housing Service, USDA
Washington, D.C.

Addressing CARH:

One of the first steps I have taken as the Deputy Administrator is that within the past six weeks we have appointed three Deputy Directors — Carl Wagner for the 538 Guaranteed Program, Sue Harris-Green for Processing (515, HPG), and Larry Anderson for the Office of Rural Housing Preservation. Working with Larry is Cynthia Reese-Foxworth. On January 10, we issued two additional position announcements — one for Director of Processing and one for Director of Portfolio Management. These are the actions I’m taking to more or less stabilize the leadership in the multifamily housing program in the National Office. In doing this, when we get these individuals in place, we hope to move forward, and as Jan indicated, to address the needs of our aging portfolio as well as the needs for additional units.

In this new position, I want to strengthen my alliance with CARH. I’m going to be calling on you in the future. We have been working with you in our Reinvention process. As Jan indicated, we want to set up a team to address preservation issues. You’re out here on the ground, this is your living, you can tell us much better than we can ever dream sitting in Washington what it takes, what’s needed, to address the preservation issues out there. It is a very serious issue, as Jan indicated. Our bottom line right now is: we know what the problems are and for the most part, we don’t have the financial resources to address them.

We want to work closely with the housing agencies. Most of you in many states have been conduits between RHS and the state housing agencies. They have been our primary lifeline with Tax Credits, mortgage dollars, tax-exempt bond financing. For the most part, the state housing agencies across the country have fallen in line, they have partnered with us, leveraged our resources with theirs, and theirs with us.

Staffing at RHS/DC

I have a staff person leaving RHS and going to work for HUD. The reason I mention that is that when we have individuals leaving us to go to bigger and better things, especially with an organization such as HUD, it strengthens our alliance with HUD. Chuck Wehrwein went to HUD — that was a tremendous help, that was an alliance, that was a line of communication we haven’t had in the past. So it is a plus.

Joyce Allen has been assigned the collateral duty of working to coordinate the final writing as well as the issuance of the Reinvention regulation 3560 for publication. Jan indicated that I am to give you some details on Reinvention. We’re at the final stages of signing off (we’re about to sign off) on the regulation to be released for clearance through the Agency as well as the Department.

3560 is Coming

You might ask what all that means. Is it going to take eight months to get 3560 out of the Agency and the Department? It could — I wouldn’t kid you, it could. But, I don’t think so. We expect to have that regulation cleared and out for Proposed Rule by late March or early April. Now, this is only for Proposed Rule; if you have concerns when you see it, please comment. You’ll have a second shot at it. 3560 includes all of the management (the old 1930-C).

FY 99 515 NOFA

We issued a 515 NOFA on November 16th, which expired January 15th, 1999. This was a 60-day window for submission of proposals. As we speak, the States are in fact evaluating your responses to that NOFA. Your responses have been in the form of proposals for funding properties to be constructed with 515 funds. By February 8th, the States are to have completed their reviews and evaluations, their ranking and scoring on a State level. Those applications will then come into the National Office for a further evaluation and ranking and scoring. By the end of February, if not sooner, we expect to have our final decisions made and answers back to the State offices.

We did a preliminary check on the number of applications that we received in response to the NOFA — that was 161. The requests total $123 million. This is against a $114 million allocation. Of course, out of that allocation, we had $79 million for new construction; so, in effect, you have $123 million in requests against a $79 million set-aside. The remainder of the allocation actually amounts to the $30 million we have set-aside for repair/ rehab, and then we have a small portion set-aside for the Administrator’s Reserve — that’s about $5.4 million. It’s all spelled out in 1940-L.

Repair/Rehab

We expect to have final decisions made on repair/rehab within the next few weeks. We will be in touch with the States for one last bit of information, and it’s very minor. As soon as we get that, we will in fact be releasing to the States the final decisions on the repair/rehab loans. We received 52 applications for $31.5 million in repair/rehab.

We have within our portfolio about 455,000 units; that equates to about 18,000 properties. Our delinquency level has actually maintained at 1.9% for the past three months. This is our lowest delinquency in fifteen years. In terms of properties that we have in our inventory (what we call REO’s), we’re down to sixteen. I know all are essentially asked for; we have procedural steps we have to go through, and we have some legal entanglements; pretty soon that figure will reduce.

We’re planning to review our portfolio condition, develop reliable predictions on repair/rehab as well as financial needs, as well as focus on troubled properties first. We are in fact studying ways to keep funds available in future budget years — it’s going to be tough. As Jan indicated, we have a high percentage of properties that are in excess of fifteen years old — these are properties we financed pre-1979. We have each, since 1994 put small amounts of dollars out there for repair/rehab to address Health and Safety needs. That’s only a drop in the bucket. Within the next two to three years, those properties are going to be coming back at us — it’s only the tip of the iceberg.

Repair/Rehab Funds Needed

We project that by 2000 we will need some $423 million in repair/rehab dollars in order to touch every property out there within that 18,000 project portfolio that needs repair. We don’t have that kind of money. That’s why I’ll be calling on you.

On preservation, Larry Anderson and Cynthia Reese-Foxworth head this up. We will be calling on you to work with us as far as setting up the Task Force. We want to call it a Preservation Task Force; we have to sit down, first of all, to identify the needs (I’m talking conceptually). After we’ve identified the needs, we want to determine our strategy for getting out and determining exactly what’s there and what it’s going to cost to make the needed repairs.

The Industry Interface is proceeding well. We want to thank you for your cooperation in this area. TPA’s (Transfer Protocol Agreements) are up to 5,940 as of January 4, which is about 34% of all projects. We’re up to 39% of all properties that are over 24 units; Jan set a goal of 60% this year for properties that are larger than 24 units to engage TPA’s; so we’re getting there. Looks like we will make that 60% goal.

Automation in Field

On Automation, the bottom line on that (Industry Interface is one aspect of this), MFIS (Multi-Family Integrated System) Two will come out by, hopefully, March. We will provide the field with more Automation tools — budget reviews, financial statement reviews, status tracking, along with providing management information system tools that they do not currently have. What we have now in our offices is we have stand-alone 3B2 systems that the local office feeds data into. If I, for example, need information from a particular Servicing Office, as our system is set up now, we have to do a survey. In the future, we hope that a lot of that data within the stand-alone 3B2’s will be put on a server; it will give us the capacity to do ad-hoc reporting. We could actually pull that information to the National and State levels.

MFIS, however, is going to be a monitoring system, primarily that will enable our field offices when they make reviews to actually, through automation, make notes, loan the information into a data base, and that data base will be accessible from the National Office down.

Prepayment List

You want to know basically how we’re handling the prepayment list. We are in fact accepting prepayment requests, we’re funding those that we’re capable of funding. This year we have $5 million set-aside, with $2.5 million of that designated to facilitate transfers to non-profits.

Thank you very much.

QUESTIONS & ANSWERS

3560 Handbook?

Question: Will the handbook on 3560 be given out for comment?

Answer:   Baker: When we do a Proposed Rule, we don’t issue the handbook until the rule is issued as a Final Rule. The Proposed Rule at that stage is still a moving target, the policies are still a moving target. If in fact you see areas there in the Proposed Rule that still need to be further addressed, we review those comments. If they’re significant, we make changes; then we go out for Final Rule. At that point, we issue the handbook because the handbook has to be consistent with the actual regulation. So your handbook will not be issued with the Proposed Rule.

Comments on Handbook?

Question: Will we have the opportunity to comment on the handbook?

Answer:   Shadburn: I know we had the same concerns when we were doing the 538. In June, Bob Yoder said he wanted to see the 538 handbook. Well, we made through that, and everyone has been happy with the 538 handbook. In answer to your question on those concerns, we’ll work diligently to try to make sure that as this process goes through, that people are comfortable with the 3560 handbook.

Relief in Automation?

Question: RD staff are still spending a vast amount of time on nickel and dime paperwork in the field; as the portfolio and the tenants in elderly projects grow older, can we figure out how to spend less time on paperwork and more time on the big issues such as the physical conditions? Can we cut down, for example, on the rent increase and tenant certification paperwork?

Answer:   Baker: We anticipate that MFIS Two will do just what you said. I’ve seen demonstrations on it — it is very time sensitive, very compliance sensitive. It will have, in fact, alarms in there to tell us that, for example, during the last project visit, there was some concern about the roof. We’re talking capital expenditure needs — it will, in fact, track that. What we’re hoping to have is systems in place where a staff person can visit a property and press certain menu items, and go back to the field office itself and have that information recorded on a data base. Once it is in the MFIS data base, that system will alert the field offices to various reviews. Even the budget needs, we expect MFIS to address that. The idea behind our new automation system is to reduce the paperwork involved. And, this does have the potential for reducing Management’s paperwork.

Reserve Planning?

Question: We need to build large Reserve accounts to care for aging projects. Many RD staff are new and not very knowledgeable about the costs of repairs. They ask us, for example, to put together Capital Improvement Plans; my experience in the public sector is that you put together both the expenditure side and the revenue side. The difficulty with RD in putting together the revenue side is that it is not a reliable, predictable side; we constantly argue over minor rent increases, not to mention substantial increases, to build these Reserve accounts when we really need a five year plan for rent increases. I think the Agency needs to tell the States to build the Reserves substantially, and one of the ways to do this is allow us to build in and rely on five year rent increases.

Answer:   Baker: The policy we’ve been employing in terms of capital expenditures, cash inflows, cash outflows — we try to stick with comparable rents for comparable units, try to use those as a measure. The reason we do that is it all boils down to the cost of Rental Assistance. When you’re talking capital expenditures, we’re looking for ways to make the capital expenditure. If we have to put additional money in there, we do; or, if we have to subordinate in order to enable you to get funding elsewhere, but we have to, in fact, make certain our rents stay within what the market dictates. Otherwise, we are going to have a horrendous drain on our Rental Assistance. It all boils down to the availability of Rental Assistance.

Summary by Jan Shadburn

These kinds of things help us. As we move forward, certainly don’t hesitate to give us a call. We need to hear from you to make these programs better. If we’re hearing from you, that’s what’s most important. Thank you for inviting us.


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