John Meyers, 515 Housing Consultant


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Patrick Sheridan
Acting Deputy Administrator,
Multi-Family Housing
Rural Housing Service, USDA
Washington, D.C.

Addressing CARH:

This has certainly been a challenging year and I don’t expect that next year will be any different. With all the things that we have going on, we’ve had a number of successes, I feel, in the case of the Regulation Reinvention process and the development of the 538 program. As you know, we’re not finished with either yet, they do seem to be going quite well.

We’ve had to deal with a number of real challenges over the last few years. Certainly as far as challenges — reductions in funding, staff reductions and reorganizations of field offices — it has been an experience to go through to determine who is doing what in which office, and to be able to tell what training needs are for those staff.

Natural Disaster in South Dakota

As far as disasters go, I just want to bring to your attention that if you’ve been following the news about all the tornadoes in the past few weeks, in Spencer, South Dakota which is certainly a small town, if you hear of affordable rental housing in a small town in Rural America, there is a very good chance it is an Agency financed complex. In Spencer, we had 3 twelve-plexes that were totally demolished, and two elderly tenants were killed in the tornadoes. Pennsylvania just had a 515 project take a direct hit. We do want to commend our South Dakota staff for working quickly and locating vacancies in adjoining towns in 515 complexes and doing what they could to find places for people to live in the interim.

Rotating duties

As far as changes in staffing and such, you’ll notice I’m here as Acting Deputy Administrator. Obie Baker and I are doing 90-day rotations in the position, so the chances are the next time we have a meeting, you’ll see Obie in this position. Carl Grate is the Acting Division Director for Portfolio Management.

We’ve had a lot of changes in field staff as people have been reassigned and such. We are doing what we can to determine what the training needs are for our field staff. We have several new employee training classes coming up.

I want to ask you that if you see certain areas where you think we need attention paid to field staff training or any suggestions you might have, please let us know.

2.1% delinquency

Of the 455,000 units we have in our 18,000 projects, the actual performance of the portfolio has been very good. We have 2.1% delinquency right now — that is for all projects delinquent any time at all, not just 30 days or more. We’ve had a 22% drop in our 180 day delinquent projects over the last 12 months; we have only 11 projects in inventory. Last year’s writeoff was only $21.8 million, which is 0.18% of the portfolio. As far as the performance of it, we feel quite comfortable that we can match our program with any Affordable Housing lender out there.

Working with OIG

As Jan also mentioned, we are continuing to work with OIG as far as making sure that our portfolio is well managed and run. We have had a couple of specific successes we’d like to point out — one was a developer in Washington State that we’d been working on the case for quite some time. As you’ve probably heard before, we had a Receivership set up of the 60 complexes within the portfolio. Recently, we obtained guilty pleas on six felony counts; I believe the sentencing was to take place last week. And, we are currently trying to work on getting ourselves out of the Receivership at this point, as we feel that it is time to move on and get us out of the ownership role.

Equity Skimming Case

Recently, West Virginia had a case last month where there were indictments handed down — the first one under the Equity Skimming Act, which is the provision that was written into the 1996 Appropriations Bill. The second indictment is a little bit unusual — it was under the Clean Water Act because it was a private septic system. Apparently it was polluting the local water supply.

This is going to be the first test of whether the Equity Skimming provision works or not.

3560 Process

Regulation Reinvention is going well. It is an extremely intensive process. In fact, a large number of field staff came in, we’ve has Stakeholder sessions; as Jan mentioned, last week we had a session with CARH and the Homebuilders to talk about key points of the regulations that have been drafted.

I’d like to say that probably 60% of the comments that we’ve received from people commenting on the draft regulations were things that when we looked at them, we said they were right and we need to change that and clarify that something along those lines.

Probably we don’t need to suggest this to you, but don’t be shy in bringing things like that up to us. I don’t think anybody in the Rural Housing Service thinks we caught everything that there could possibly be in the Draft. So the more things you point out to us that we can either clarify at this point or remember to put in if we forgot to put in, please let us know.

There’s probably another 20% that we need to take another look at to see if, maybe there is a good point there or if it is customer-friendly and handles both sides. I think there’s probably another 20% that it may be a situation where someone has one point of view and we have a different point of view, or maybe the OIG has a different point of view — whether we ever reconcile every one of them or not, I kind of doubt it.

I think the majority of the comments that were brought up were very valid and we will be able to clarify and improve the regulations as we go through this process.

I would like to thank John Pentecost in particular for spearheading the Regulation Reinvention process. He is our expediter and task boss, if you will. With all the other things we have going on at any point, we need someone to crack the whip over us. And, that is what John’s primary function is right now, I think. Along with making sure it gets through the clearance process quickly.

One thing that we did do recently with the regulation process was to, and I’m talking about the 3560 series which is for 515 and 514, split the NOFA process for the Labor Housing program out from the overall 3560. We found that to be necessary because, for FY 1999, Labor Housing funds will be dependent on the NOFA process being in existence at the beginning of FY 1999 (beginning October 1, 1998). With the current schedule for the 3560 regulation not being a Final Rule until the Fall of 1999, it would not allow us to use our FY 1999 Labor Housing funds. So we did make that adjustment to the process and I believe we’ll have the Proposed Rule for Labor Housing out this Fall with a Final shortly after that.

As far as loan production programs, 515 and 514, I’m not going to go into too much detail on that, but the one thing I would like to mention is the change in the Appropriations Act from the 50 year term down to the 30 year term is in place as of FY 1998. We are looking at some other possibilities there, too. The purpose of the change in term was to try to reduce the subsidy rate of the 515 program so we’d have more program dollars available.

We are looking at possibly changing the term for subsequent loans also to a shorter term. Anything we might be able to do there to make sense as far as the remaining useful life of projects and the term so that we can find whether there are any additional savings we might be able to get in the subsidy rate and thereby increase our Appropriations level by reducing the subsidy. So, any comments you might have or ideas about subsequent loans in relation to term we’d like to hear about those also.

Rental Assistance

Jan mentioned the Section 521 Rental Assistance program. The Appropriations for that for this year, FY 98, is $545 million. most of that is going to be used for renewals, in fact about 85-90%, although there is some for new construction and for Preservation purposes. The FY 99 budget is $583 million. That is a big number; it is the single biggest subsidy cost for the Rural Development mission area of USDA.

It draws a lot of attention; we’re looking at a lot of different ways to see whether there is any possibility of reducing the cost of Rental Assistance. We actually saw a little bit of a reduction this year in the cost of a 5 year contract. It is sort of hard to pin down what the real reason for that is — it could be the economy performing better, it could be Welfare Reform, a number of different things. While the number of units that needed to be renewed or needed to be increased, because we got a little bit of a break in the cost of the actual unit itself, we didn’t need quite as much money for renewals as we thought we might. If that trend continues, it might lessen our need for big increases anyway.

538 Program

As for the Section 538 program, it is a new program — this is its third year. It has operated the last two years as a Demonstration program, For those of you that aren’t acquainted with it at all, it is a guaranteed loan made by private lenders (banks, mortgage companies or Housing Finance Agencies). It has done very well as far as the first two years go.

I had the opportunity to see one of the first ones that is up and running and occupied. I was happy to see that it already has a waiting list in the three or four months it has been in operation. From what they tell me, the biggest waiting list is for three-bedroom units, so you might want to think about that as far as future designs go.

We are looking at a number of legislative proposals, also to fine tune the 538 program, and make it both more user-friendly and to work better from a security standpoint, but also increase the subsidy rate.

It certainly is going to be a challenging year as we go through the regulation process. As far as your continued input, certainly with the 538 program, the Interim Final Rule is expected out the first part of July, and we expect that will be sitting down with CARH and others on your comments about the Interim Final Rule. As it is an Interim Final, we will be able to take those comments and make the modifications necessary to the regulation before it comes out in Final. Certainly, as you see that come out, as you look through the 515/3560 process, make sure you let us know. We want to you to have opportunities for input so you can let us know how to make the process better and smoother.


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