John Meyers, 515 Housing Consultant


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Eileen Fitzgerald
Acting Administrator
Rural Housing Service, USDA
Washington, D.C.

Addressing CARH:

The big news that we have is that our Section 538 Multi-family Housing Guarantee program NOFA will be published this week. Secretary Glickman actually announced it last week; he was doing an event for Home Ownership Week. He found out about it, and he actually personally asked to be able to announce it in Florida, which he did.

The NOFA is for $74 million and closes August 31. We’re giving you a little more time this year. By next year, hopefully, we be able to get the NOFA out by November if we any kind of normal budget cycle. Depending on the funding level next year, if we have $100 million next year I think we’ll definitely still need to have a NOFA; if we went up to $200 million, we would have to talk to our OGC and see what other options might be possible such as to do a state by state allocation. Either way, now that the regulation is Final, it will be much easier for us to get the funding out earlier. I’d like particularly to recognize Obie Baker, Carl Wagner, and their staff for getting the regulation out.

I know it seems really frustrating to you on how long it takes, but that took a lot of hand holding by us to try to get it through all the different clearances it has to go through in the Department and OMB to actually get it out and published. They did a very good job on that.

The 515 program (we had the NOFA for New Construction in March), depending on the amount for repair and rehabilitation, it is still a little bit slow. If any of you are involved in that, we are trying to get those loans obligated so if someone is not going to use that money, we can pass it on to the next development that needs it. So that is the focus for us for right now.

Existing Portfolio Issues

We are working diligently with the prepayment and preservation task force that CARH is a member of. Of all the issues to educate people about multi-family housing in rural America, is talking about the fact that we have an aging housing stock and that we need to do something to assure that it is out there (something that is fair and equitable); whether we are talking about repair and rehab issues or equity loans or tenants, the fact of the matter is that 60% of our portfolio is now over 15 years old.

Lots of rural communities rely on that housing. Most of it is in fairly good shape, but we need to have an infusion of resources to keep that out there, to keep it affordable, and to keep it in the housing stock.

We feel this task force is one way of educating everyone about what these issues are. People who know a little bit about housing have all been somewhat familiar with HUD’s concern with mark-to-market and all the issues out there. And, that is true for certain members of Congress. But, most people are not at all familiar with the 515 issues that relate to the portfolio. So I think this is going to be a multi-year effort, but this task force is a good place to be starting. You can’t just ignore a portfolio and expect it to continue to be out there, to be in good condition, and that ultimately tenants will have someplace to live in their community. I hope you help us to educate and inform everyone about those issues.

Status of Revising 1930-C

One of the things I know a lot of folks are frustrated about, including us, is our multi-family 3560 regulation. We are committed that it will truly someday be published.

I think we will have a really good regulation. We now have started the clearance process; it is a major change in the program. Lots of pieces of the regulation are changing; hopefully, all of them for the better, and a lot of them in ways that many of you have suggested as participants in our Stakeholder meetings. It has now been in our General Counsel’s office for about 4 weeks; hopefully, we’ll be able to get it out of there fairly soon since they’ve been part of the process.

The next steps in the process is that it is going to parts of the Department and Administration that don’t work with the multi-family housing program on a daily basis. Even though we have been educating them all along, it is going to take some time when the Department’s budget people and OMB all have to review this regulation. I wish it wasn’t like this, but it is. We are going to do everything in our power to try to get it approved as quickly as possible. We also need you to realize that there are a lot of changes here, it is a fairly complex program; this means it will take people a little while. No matter what is happening (I wish it could happen tomorrow), it will get out there; we will have a proposed handbook out with it. When the proposed rule is out there, you will have a handbook that we will consider a Very Good draft. We won’t make it final because, obviously, we can’t have a final handbook unless we have a final rule; but, we’re committed to having both of those out there. I think that will help you understand what this regulation can possibly do.

I also believe that we talked about virtually all aspects of it last year, so you won’t find any big surprises in there. We realize that you are frustrated, or a little frustrated; all I can say is we are very committed to doing it. Obie has someone working on it full time basically to make sure it is getting through all the people that have to see it. It has been a real education for us in trying to get a number of regulations we have through, and really making our programs work much more efficiently.

Industry Interface

Finally, I want to touch on our Automation. We are also making a lot of progress there. Obviously, Industry Interface is being utilized a lot more around the country. Also, we’re integrating a number of our other systems in multi-family housing; we hope that will start being evident when we get into the fall and early winter. There are a number of different phases, but it will enable our States to manage our program much better; I think that will benefit you in the long run, particularly as we get to the tenant system improvements that we are looking at.

We are always looking to hear what your suggestions are and how to manage the portfolio better. We hope this can lead us to work in partnership.


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